All Rights Reserved. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Could be ammo related. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. Im a little ahead of you on this path. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. It won't load a round. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Clear editor. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. Haha.). I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply What ammo? Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. Pasted as rich text. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. So let's make sure we understand this situation. The tools. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. I was not really paying attention to what he did. I dont have any aftermarket parts in it. Oh its not a logical move. Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. check the recoil spring. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Upload or insert images from URL. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. You can post now and register later. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. Then compare frames and see what is different. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I couldnt be happier. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I am making sure not to ease it forward. What do your used primers look like? I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? It won't load a round. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. - Bren. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Paste as plain text instead, I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. You cannot paste images directly. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. Powered by Invision Community. Does it function? In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Display as a link instead, How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. Have you tried shooting it? Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. BrianEnos.com Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. This is only going to be used at the range. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. No need to clean, just add lube. It now passes the recoil spring test. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? Upload or insert images from URL. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. It did shoot fine. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. Oct 20, 2013. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Thank you for that great info! Nick29 I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. All Rights Reserved. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? Your previous content has been restored. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. This is only going to be used at the range. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. Sometimes they go in crooked and stick up a bit. Thanks. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Glad you got it fixed. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. February 21, 2022 in Glock. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. Sorry about that. You can post now and register later. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Any ideas on what the issue might be? To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. Do the RSA's need lube? Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? When I press the slide release it loads just fine. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Clear editor. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. January 3, 2004 in Glock. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Also do you have another 17 handy? My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. Nice pull and crisp break. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. What does the extractor look like? Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? try firing it. BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. Just a thought. is your locking block seated correctly? Clear editor. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Check for it. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. I should have added this in the OP. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. Your link has been automatically embedded. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. It's great. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. Its never happened with the factory barrel. JavaScript is disabled. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. I totally get this. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Lots of creep, but that is by design. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. I couldnt be happier. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. 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